How do you think Obama will go now? He's been very focused on winning the election, so it'll be interesting to see what direction he goes in next. For instance, how his economic plan is going to unfold, and if it will really work. I'm also interested in how he will handle the War in Iraq.

Eh, I'm just glad Bush is out. At least McCain's not President. With Palin. If Obama sticks to his word, we'll have the majority of our troops out of Iraq in the near future. Hopefully.

[QUOTE USER="shadianvise" TIME="1225861024"]Eh, I'm just glad Bush is out. At least McCain's not President. With Palin. If Obama sticks to his word, we'll have the majority of our troops out of Iraq in the near future. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]

Because that worked so fine in vietnam.

The Republican supporters at McCain's concession made me laugh. What a bunch of fucking immature hicks. Way to embarrass yourselves and your candidate, inbred racist pieces of shit. Of course you don't see it that way, you see it as your candidate disgracing you by showing some respect to his opponent, who unfortunately for you is black. And now he's going to be running the country! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

*cough* I'm feeling just a tad cocky at the moment <____<

[QUOTE USER="repto" TIME="1225878186"]The Republican supporters at McCain's concession made me laugh. What a bunch of fucking immature hicks. Way to embarrass yourselves and your candidate, inbred racist pieces of shit. Of course you don't see it that way, you see it as your candidate disgracing you by showing some respect to his opponent, who unfortunately for you is black. And now he's going to be running the country! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

*cough* I'm feeling just a tad cocky at the moment <____<[/QUOTE]

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I'm just glad American troops are pulling out of Iraq. Probably.

On the other hand, I noticed the majority of Democrats feared what would happen if John Mccain became president and Vice Versa with Republicans/Obama. :(

You know what? Even with Obama's advantage in the polls and the even bigger one he had in electoral vote projections, I was still scared McCain would pull a last-minute surprise. This is America we're talking about, after all - and thankfully, not even America could mess that one up. I really think that just by voting Obama in, America will get back part of the respect from the international community that they lost in the past decade. I'm not expecting the instant-win "But they voted for Bush twice!" rebuttal to go away any time soon, but that's a step in the right direction.

BTW, while I'm speaking of foreign opinion of America and Obama, there were a bunch of polls taken all over the world in the last few weeks, and even the super-conservative Switzerland wanted Obama to win in a proportion of over 80%! Naturally, in the rest of the Western world you had numbers in the high 80s and low 90s. I know, because over here journalists were trying to interview that elusive McCain supporter all day, and he never showed up. So yeah, when I say the US are by far and away the most conservative country in the Western world, you can take that for granted. Only there could Obama only scrape up 52% of the vote.

Anyway, I've followed a few American elections now, and I think one of the biggest differences between American politics and Canadian politics, aside from the very different political systems of course, is religion. South of the border, it seems to me like it's absolutely impossible to run for any kind of political position if you don't go to church every Sunday, even in blue states. Whereas here, Harper could reveal he's a Muslim, or even a satanist or something, and no one would give a ****. Here, the only question that matters is "how can you solve my problems and the country's problems?". Not, "how often do you go to church?", or "who did you hang out with when you were 8?".

I'm afraid I haven't the time to read/write eloquently on this matte, but I'll come back shortly enough and put my own thoughts.

For the meanwhile, enjoy this image my friend found.

[QUOTE USER="flounder" TIME="1225884410"]
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You should be frowning, lest you think it's okay to scream BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO every time McCain even mentions Obama's name.

And Slowflake, I was using the "This is the nation that elected Bush twice" idea to keep myself from getting my hopes up. Then once I saw the electoral votes after California, Hawaii, and the other two states come in and Obama had reached 283, I was ecstatic. I also immediately called my mother who was in bed by that time and told her the news, as she was a huge Obama supporter also. Not only did she toe the "Bush twice" line, she refused to make anything of any news she saw until a candidate had definitely won.

Well, to be honest, I didn't wait until California came in to say Obama won, because I was sure he'd take California no matter what. It was when he got up in the 220s a few minutes before 11 PM that I knew it was a done deal. Besides, one of the guys at CNN made a demonstration of how hopeless McCain's situation looked even before that, and he kept saying "I wouldn't put a dime on McCain winning that state, but I'll give it to him for the sake of argument" over and over, and with that he gave the West coast and Hawaii to Obama and every single state left to McCain, and McCain could still only reach 266. With that I knew there'd be no last-minute surprise.

If anything the surprise is how competitive Obama was in certain states. 44% in Texas is absolutely amazing, as is 47% in Montana, 45% in Arizona... that's right, McCain failed to get a double-digit win on his home turf!

But to come back to "this is the country where Bush won twice"... I've been hearing lately that Palin wants to run in 2012. I can only pray she's going to get annihilated if she attempts to do that.

Especially if Clinton runs again, but I have the feeling that Obama will go for a second term. We're getting ahead of ourselves though.

And when I mentioned California I didn't mean I had any doubts, but it was when the results for those four states came in that he immediately soared over 270 and clinched the presidency. At that point Obama had also exceeded McCain's popular vote by over a million, since for a while it was tight at 49%-50%.

I don't know much of anything about American history, so I don't even know if an incumbent ever didn't go for a second term, or how often it happened, but I suppose there's no reason why Obama wouldn't go for it again.

Unless, of course, he's pushing up daisies by then. I've talked to my parents about this, and they're worried there may be attempts on his life before we get to 2012. Which, especially given the reaction to McCain's speech which you brought up, wouldn't be a huge shocker in itself.

Honestly I did not expect things to turn out the way it did. When I saw that it was like 100 something McCain - 30 something Obama, I really though McCain was going to win. (Mind you, I was rooting for Obama) However, I did not expect the results at all. Obama won by a fucking landslide of votes.

A fucking landslide of votes

Not quite Reagan's decimation, but yeah, he dominated McCain soundly.

http://www.pooshlmer.com/wakaba/src/1225933512031.jpg - Firefox won't let you hotlink but copypasta works :/

Palin in 2012? Interesting decision people would have to make then.

That pic is fail, because not using Exploder leads to a page that tells you not to use Firefox to open it. Otherwise it is awesome.

And I sincerely hope that was sarcasm. Even Palin vs. a roadkill skunk would be the easiest thing ever to vote on. Might be more complex if you're a religious right-wing nutjob, though - and unfortunately, America's got a lot of these. IMO Palin's emergence is the only reason why this outcome was a 99% happy ending rather than 100%.

[QUOTE USER="repto" TIME="1225878186"]The Republican supporters at McCain's concession made me laugh. What a bunch of fucking immature hicks. Way to embarrass yourselves and your candidate, inbred racist pieces of shit. Of course you don't see it that way, you see it as your candidate disgracing you by showing some respect to his opponent, who unfortunately for you is black. And now he's going to be running the country! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[/QUOTE]

What the hell are you talking about? You do realize that many people have booed even more so at Obama rallies, don't you? It's funny how it's only bad if the people you oppose do it. What's say Obama doesn't follow through with any of his promises (something tells me he probably won't), what then? Will you support "Obama Derangement Syndrome" as people did/do with Bush? Somehow I think your hypocrisy will shine through.

Since you cheered like so-called McCain Supporters, I will cheer like a stereotypical Obama supporter:

Whooohoooo! Yeah! Fuck yeah! I'm finally proud of America! I'm naive! I think things will actually change! I believe that Obama is God and the Messiah, and will actually do everything he promised -- even though Clinton made the same promises twice! Whoo hoo! I don't know shit.

woot polite saved this thread from turning into an insult to anyone who understands anything about politics.

Your ire is delicious. Could I have rubbed it in any more? My guess is no.

Well, this topic went downhill fast, mostly thanks to Repto. >_>

Um... back on subject... does anyone here actually want Palin to run in 2012? I prefer her over McCain, mostly because she's a true conservative. I had to stomach that "reaching across the aisle" garbage for far too long. A maverick Republican in this day in age would be one that is staunchly conservative.

In before flames :D