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Slowflake

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Nov 3 '09

SMB3 part 4 is up! Now with a lot more dying!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isaIavPlrgw#&fmt=18

Also, on an entirely unrelated note, I've got a boatload of friend vouchers in vanilla Metroid Prime 3 (NOT Trilogy), so if anyone wants to trade, just tell me. FC's 8622-0893-1443-8853. (And just to give you an idea, the only two that I'm missing are the ones with "flawless" and "perfect" in the name.)
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Mattman324

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Nov 4 '09

... I'm sorry. I didn't realise that everyone but me hates Colosseum (Of course, what happened last year at TSG would make anyone hate the game) I personally liked it. It made one realise that pokemon like Magcargo have use (then again, maybe Slowflake should force himself to use Magcargo. Just for kicks. It would be like TheKholdOne using Farfetch'd.). Then of course, there was the fact that the battles were actually somewhat challenging (oh noez, a challange in a pokemon game without the name "Battle Frontier" in it!) with the 2 vs 2 aspect, and the fact that XD was easy.

Now, if only it had been 2 player...
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Slowflake

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Nov 4 '09

I dunno, I'm not terribly fond of the type of challenge that comes from a horrible lack of Pokémon selection. Colosseum has just barely over half of what even RBY had!

Also, two new episodes! Now we know how vampires celebrate the holiday period...

Part 115: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL2WLuONd-s&fmt=18
Part 116: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_48U2ag2Q&fmt=18
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Repto

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Nov 4 '09

XD may have been easy, but at least they were throwing solid UU, BL and OU pokes at us like candy. In other words, stuff someone that knows anything about Pokemon would consider using.

That, and they actually hooked a lot of those guys up nicely during purification. Starmie and Magmar especially come to mind; IIRC Starmie was GIVEN Psychic and Ice Beam, and Magmar Cross Chop, Thunderpunch and Fire Blast.

Purification was so fast that the fact that stuff like Snorlax, Lapras and Salamence came late wasn't much of a wrench in your plan to use it.

Games can always be difficult for the wrong reasons.
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Mattman324

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Nov 4 '09

[QUOTE USER="repto" TIME="1257361704"]XD may have been easy, but at least they were throwing solid UU, BL and OU pokes at us like candy. In other words, stuff someone that knows anything about Pokemon would consider using.

That, and they actually hooked a lot of those guys up nicely during purification. Starmie and Magmar especially come to mind; IIRC Starmie was GIVEN Psychic and Ice Beam, and Magmar Cross Chop, Thunderpunch and Fire Blast.

Purification was so fast that the fact that stuff like Snorlax, Lapras and Salamence came late wasn't much of a wrench in your plan to use it.

Games can always be difficult for the wrong reasons.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, the Kaiso syndrom. A game is only difficult if it annoys the f*** out of you.

Still, look at Diamond and Pearl compared to Platinum. Most of the D/P pokemon that would find their way into you're teams were low tier. (Can I hear a "Rapidash"?) However, you never hear people complaning that "Oh, Diamond and Pearl suck, I'm never gonna play them!" Maybe that's for another reason though, I wouldn't know.

Anyway, it's not like Colosseum limits your good pokemon... heck, even before Mirror B. you could get a good team! I'll list the better ones in bold.

Espeon, Umbreon, Hariama, a Johto Starter, Misdreavus, Quagsire, Jumpluff, Magcargo, Ampharos (say what you will, he's still one of the better Electric types in the game), Noctowl, Furret, Octillery (to bad about the level 20 catch though), Mantine, Quilfish, Dunsparce, Medicham, Altaria (Hey, bad stats or not, a Dragon can still dominate.)

Then, the After B. time -

Sudowoodo, Plusle, Hitmontop, ENTEI!, Ledian, SUICUNE!, Gligar, Sneasel, Piloswine, Stantler, Ariados (spidermon song aplicable here.), Aipom, Murkrow, Forretris (fourth generation, Gyro Ball alone would bold him.), Granbull, Flygon (before Raikou to, perfect timing), RAIKOU!, Sunflora, Delibird, Heracross, Skarmory, Miltank, Absol, Houndoom, Tropius (this late in the game? Who was drinking?), Metagross, Tyranitaur (what luck! Right after Metagross!), two other Johto starters, Smeargle, Ursaring, Shuckle (same guy who put in Tropius, methinks?), Togetic, Ho-oh (after EVERYTHING else is done.)

Ok, so it isn't the greatest, but it still works! (I went with Espeon, Umbreon, Medicham, Altaria, Hariama, and Feraligatr as my final, and my mom used Houndoom, Suicune, Raikou, Metagross, Tyranitaur, and Ho-oh)
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Slowflake

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Nov 4 '09

*winkwinkS3DBnudgenudge*

I was checking out the usage lists for October to make an eventual recap of HGSS' impact (or lack thereof), and I found it funny how Surf and Blizzard are still favored over Super Fang. Let me guess, ghosts?

But honestly, the fact that only two Pokémon (Aggron and Dragonite) had major fluctuations in usage means HGSS failed in what was a seemingly perfect attempt at leveling the playing field by improving non-OUs. Honchkrow and Mismagius jumping to Ou didn't happen... in fact they remained the same! Heck, looking back on it, ubers were more impacted, with Ho-Oh skyrocketing, and as a side effect Groudon actually came much closer to Kyogre than anyone ever did since stats are being kept. So I think we have our three candidates for Star of the Year right there.

As for Rapidash, it was only used by people who feel they HAVE to have one Grass, one Fire, one Water, one Electric... you get the idea. I didn't have any Fire attack on my team, and I did just fine. People just feel they need one because either it's the people's favorite type, or because it's part of so many different trios.
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Repto

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Nov 4 '09

Keep in mind that I don't really share the opinion of you and fold in thinking Colosseum was hard. It annoys me period because the game itself was just not well thought out. Put that list alongside XD's and see how badly it's shat upon.

Second, DP to Platinum is nothing like Colosseum to XD. It doesn't help Colosseum in the slightest that 4th gen mechanics made drastic changes and made many pokes suck less. There's still a very large collection of GOOD Pokemon accessible before the Elite Four. You bring up Rapidash, but Fire as a type has always been one that was not particularly vital within teams. Fire attacks, maybe competitively, but certainly ingame, you were at no disservice if you didn't include the type.

DP was at least expansive enough with its selection that before owning the game I had a hard time choosing between four different sets of pokes, none of them containing any repeats. Most pokes were also BL or greater (though I hate bringing tiers into discussion, especially when talking about ingame; I did it for Colosseum because it had so many atrocious pokes at the time.)

Anyway, the reason I came back here- Slowflake, I was somewhat amused that you used pronunciation three times in quick succession, but only said it correctly the third time. Since there's no longer an O before the U, it isn't.. pronounced. ;)
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Mattman324

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Nov 4 '09

It was only a simple comparison, I wasn't saying D/P had as bad a group of pokemon as Colosseum. But the same could be said about Platinum: take a look at the list of D/P pokemon compaired to it, and look what get's shat apon (of course, you also have to compare what is obtained earlier: Garchomp and Giratina for instance)

Still, I think a truce is in order. You can continue thinking it's bad, I can continue thinking it is good.
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Repto

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Nov 4 '09

For shits and giggles, my list of noteworthy usable pokes within DP, all pre-E4. I tend to breed for moves I really want, especially now that there exists some really good ones, so this takes those into account.

Torterra
Infernape
Empoleon
Staraptor
Alakazam
Gyarados
Roserade
Crobat
Golem
Steelix
Rampardos
Machamp
Floatzel
Gastrodon
Heracross
Ambipom
Gengar
Mismagius
Medicham
Bronzong
Blissey
Clefable
Spiritomb
Garchomp
Snorlax
Lucario
Quagsire
Hippowdon
Azumarill
Drapion
Toxicroak
Octillery
Tentacruel
Milotic
Abomasnow
Weavile
Pixies

Much bigger list than Colosseum, isn't it, and I even used bias in excluding things like Purugly, Honchkrow, Raichu, Skuntank, etc. That said, bias was also behind my inclusion of things like Floatzel, Octillery, and Gastrodon, which are usable without one feeling they're forced to because they're all that's there. In fact, Octillery was on my ingame DP team, because of its offenses and movepool that didn't require TM consumption until lategame.

IMO because the roster is the only thing to have changed between DP and Platinum, a direct comparison is unfair. XD was not an expansion to Colosseum, it was an entirely different game. Platinum took the new postgame editions and made them available beforehand, that's all.

For that matter, the Cube games to the handhelds isn't a very good comparison, either, seeing as the handhelds basically allowed you to catch what you wanted on a whim, whereas the Cubes had an unchanging assortment in a set order that forced you to catch one and one only. In the handhelds, don't we all reject countless catches until one looks like a good start?

A truce implies we were fighting. I don't feel any differently.
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Mattman324

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Nov 4 '09

[QUOTE USER="repto" TIME="1257377120"]Torterra
Infernape
Empoleon (who you can only have one of)
Staraptor
Alakazam (if you have acess to Wi-Fi, while some - like me - would not)
Gyarados
Roserade
Crobat
Golem (Sereously? I'd take Steelix any day over this guy.)
Steelix
Rampardos
Machamp
Floatzel
Gastrodon (Empoleon, Gyara, Floatsel, and Octillery, and you chose Gastrodon?)
Heracross (Superskarmory shows just how late you're gonna get this guy.)
Ambipom
Gengar (See - Alakazam)
Mismagius
Medicham
Bronzong
Blissey (HA HA HA! A wall that cannot attack ingame!)
Clefable
Spiritomb (Blissey with more defense and less attacking options)
Garchomp
Snorlax (Heracross that's more rare.)
Lucario
Quagsire (Gastro outdoes Quagsire in almost every aspect)
Hippowdon
Azumarill
Drapion
Toxicroak
Octillery
Tentacruel
Milotic (You REALLY think you can get a Feebas without a Super rod? Have fun!)
Abomasnow
Weavile
Pixies

Much bigger list than Colosseum, isn't it, and I even used bias in excluding things like Purugly, Honchkrow, Raichu, Skuntank, etc. That said, bias was also behind my inclusion of things like Floatzel, Octillery, and Gastrodon, which are usable without one feeling they're forced to because they're all that's there. In fact, Octillery was on my ingame DP team, because of its offenses and movepool that didn't require TM consumption until lategame.

A truce implies we were fighting. I don't feel any differently.[/QUOTE]
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Repto

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Nov 4 '09

Shall I dissect your own bolded list, complete with smartass remarks?

Methinks you need a truce, as I'm picking up some hostility vibes that come from one's opinion being threatened.
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Slowflake

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Nov 4 '09

That would be one of English's more clever traps. It's "pronounce", but "pronunciation". Who thought that up? It's certainly more difficult than "their", "they're" and "there". (Which I have no problem with, why do native English speakers struggle so much?)

Also, my eyes. They bleed!

http://www.youtube.com/user/pokemonlover12327

I shouldn't have to press Ctrl+A to be able to read something. Ever.
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Repto

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Nov 4 '09

Don't worry about it. Even people who speak only English (myself included) agree that it's loaded with obnoxious words and rules.
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fineifold

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Nov 4 '09

[quote] XD was not an expansion to Colosseum, it was an entirely different game. [endquote]

Exactly why l thought he should do both.
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Slowflake

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Nov 5 '09

Part 117: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9iV8Aik8Wc&fmt=18
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Repto

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Nov 6 '09

I had forgotten how irritating the whole Magnet Train quest was. Well, at first, I mean, since I was basically blocked from doing everything or going anywhere I wanted to go because of the Power Plant.

I don't think I had come to terms with the fact that Kanto still had a large degree of linearity to it, at least at first.
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Slowflake

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Nov 6 '09

Well, technically, you could still go anywhere, except for the stretch that goes from the Seafoam Islands to Cerulean. Granted, that's still a large stretch, but everywhere else was fair game.

BTW, impromptu double program!

Part 118: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gp93kZHao&fmt=18
Part 119: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmI9z108a1w&fmt=18
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ff7hero

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Nov 6 '09

Boah's name comes from one of the people who designed the set.
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Repto

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Nov 6 '09

I thought the story was, the guy who created the set was fighting someone that didn't speak english, and once Tyranitar began ripping the guy's team apart, his opponent started yelling (er typing) "BOAH BOAH BOAH" and I'm guessing once the log was posted, the name took off.

Speaking of foreigners, I wish I remembered the entire line, but I was battling someone French, who tore me apart but then started getting raped by crits and the battle quickly did a 180. It came down to 1v1, which I ended up winning, and before leaving he screamed some string of text, the only word in which I recall being FOUTAISE, because it was all in caps. I've never fought anyone else that didn't speak English or just stay silent.

Also, I've noticed that almost no one has good taste when it comes to nicknames. The character limit should be ten, if only to limit the kind of shit people come up with.
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Slowflake

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Nov 6 '09

Foutaise... it's French from France for sure, you rarely see that one in Quebec. Especially not in a chat. The way you make it sound like, a French Canadian would've said "mange de la cr... de m..." instead.
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