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Table of Contents:
A. Introduction.
B. Leads.
C. Physical Walls.
D. Physical Sweepers.
E. Special Walls
F. Special Sweepers
G. Miscellaneous Pokemon
A. Introduction.
This guide isn't for those of you who dislike reading a good wall o' text. Sorry.
This guide will cover the basics of the UU tier. It's most powerful and popular pokemon, and their various roles.
I'm not setting out to cover every single Pokemon in UU, that'd take way too long and would be completely unnecessary. No, instead you get to see UU's best and brightest, and how they work.
This isn't a team building guide either. If there's enough demand for one, I'll make it one, but for the time being, it's not.
The UU tier. where we throw pokemon that can work, but the common, average Joe can't use with much success. The OU metagame goes through trends, offensive, defensive, etc. The UU tier? Not so much. Many Pokemon in this tier can do a variety of things.
UU is a metagame where Speed is absolutely needed, and it's a rather unpredictable metagame. 150 Pokemon, and you don't know who's going to come at you next. It could be anything.
B. Leads.
First and foremost, we have the common leads of a team. In OU, we see Gengar and Weavile are usually high up on the list of leads. UU isn't measured, however out of pure experience we can see clearly who people lead with. Leads in both OU and UU like to be fast. Look at Gengar. Why do people like Gengar? Because he can easily cripple a lead. Gengar can hit you with Hypnosis so fast you don't know what's happening.
In UU, we see this situation as well, but with different pokemon. The two cats: Persian and Purugly. Both get Hypnosis, and both have 110+ Base Speed. Persian's got 3 points on Purugly, but both are effective.
Ninetails deserves mention as well.
C. Physical Walls.
UU sees several pokemon with 115+ base defense, and all but one are cursed with Rock Typing. Shuckle is at the top of the list, with the highest base Defense and Special Defense in the game. His other crappy stats don't make him favorable for walling, however he does have other uses, which I will go into later. Steelix is next on the list. 200 Base def, a usable movepool, and semi-usable stats to boot. Steelix sees use, and is probably one of the most common UU walls. Steelix has options with toxistall, and seeing as he resists Stealth Rock X4, so he can switch in on it and set up his own. Aggron and Cloyster come up next, with 180 Base Def. Aggron has better stats than Steelix, but horrible typing. He takes X4 damage from Fighting, and few UUers should be caught without one of the Hitmons on their team.
But then there's Cloyster. Tying with Aggron for 3rd best Def in the game, and with better typing, Cloyster is a favorable UU wall. With Rapid Spin, Explosion, Toxic spikes, Spikes, and a variety of other moves in his movepool, Cloyster is a lovely option. While his Ice typing isn't that nice, Cloyster sees use.
D. Physical Sweepers. The fun part of UU.
Owning the best attack stat in UU, Absol is a supreme choice. Absol is a beast in UU; abusing Crithax like he's getting paid more than Blissey does every night.
Super Luck + Night Slash + STAB + 130 Base Attack = GG. Absol is extremely predictable, but can easily take out one or two pokemon before you KO him. Absol has various set options, but rarely you'll see anything but Choice Banders and Swords Dancers.
Next on our list we see Kingler and Flareon. Flareon is really not that good of a pokemon, it lacks any form of a decent movepool. Kingler however, can be beastly. Also bosting 130 base attack, Kingler is easily one of the best Physical Sweepers in UU.
Armaldo, Crawdnaut, Granbull, Hitmonlee.
Now, let's knock some off the list. Armaldo has 125 base attack. Seems nice, right? Eh. Armaldo has decent stats, and if used with a Life Orb and Swords Dance, can work. He just gets outsped by a lot, and Earthquake is relatively common in UU. Crawdnaut has uses. He gets some nice STAB, but Crawdnaut wants to hit stuff hard and fast, something he doesn't to that great. Use him if you desire, but Kingler seems to do his job better.
Granbull is in a pickle. Beastly attack. Beastly movepool. In general, he's beastly. He runs CB as well as Absol does, and in general can destroy a decent portion of a team, if you're smart about it. He also crushes walls like Cloyster with Close Combat.
Finally, Hitmonlee. Hitmonlee enjoys the CC STAB that Granbull so desperately wants. But Ol' Lee is rather fragile, and can't easily switch in to anything but Thunder Wave. Close Combat can take a massive chunk of Steelix's health out with Close Combat, and is a force to be reckoned with.
Holy hell. I forgot how many Physical Sweepers there were.
D. Special Walls.
Again we pass over Shuckle, and will bring him up later.
Probopass is... not what Nosepass needed.
He can wall, but seems to enjoy his place as an... unexpected? Special sweeper. He does get Magnet Rise, but his 4x Fighting weakness is more problematic than his 4x Ground weakness.
Bastiodon is in the same boat as Aggron: Crappy typing, nice stats.
Claydol and Mr. Mime however, can wall. Claydol gets his funny typing and ability, and can Rapid Spin, Special Sweep, and can even pull of a RestTalk set. Mr. Mime can be a general pain in the ass. Passing CMs, Inducing Paralysis, sleep, and Confusion, or running Trick. Now I move on to my personal favorite. Grumpig. Grumpig will CM, sub, and proceed to wall you and Sweep you simultaneously. There's also Lanturn. Funny typing, and a funny ability. He can easily switch in to many things, and start abusing his stats. He gets the lethal BoltBeam combo, plus Surf. Not much stands up to him.
E. Special Sweepers
The last specified part of the guide.
We start off with Glaceon. Eevee's new evolution. It can sweep. Running Choice Specs, it's devastating. Fake Tears make it even scarier. It's highly situational though; SR and a lack of useful resistances are only so useful. Then there's Ampharos. Next highest Sp.Atk in UU. Fairly average HP, but it's usable. He doesn't have a huge variety of moves, and as a result is used moreso as a mixed sweeper than a Special one.
Next is a personal favorite, Cacturne. Cacturne isn't the type of Special Sweeper seen in OU; he's not fast. But he's awesome when running Specs. Cacturne gets unique STAB options, and a nice movepool.
Omastar and Gorebyss. Both have Swift Swim, and both can use it. Gorebyss likes Choice Specs if she's not in the rain. Omastar... Omastar has the same options as Gorry: Rain Dance or Specs. But he can also support. Do what you want with Omastar, I'm not a huge fan of it. Set up either in the rain, however, and your opponent will be weeping.
Well! There's the *general* setup of UU's best. Now we move onto those too difficult to pin down.
F.Miscellaneous UU Pokemon.
Shuckle. I told you this guy would show up, did I not?
Shuckle's a strange little... blob... thing. There's basically two things you can do.
A) Annoyance. Toxic + Rest + Encore + Filler is a giant pain in the ass. Encore on a useless move, Toxic, then just rest up and repeat.
Or B) Power Trick. Power Trick is interesting on Shuckle, as it can be extremely hilarious. Power Trick (as you may or may not know) swaps Defense and Attack. 230 Base Defense. 230 Attack. Holy crap. Laugh as your opponent gapes in suprise at their pokemon fainting.
Hitmontop is an unusual little creature. He can Rapid Spin, run a CB, or abuse Technician. He makes a fun physical sweeper, and is highly usable as a physical sweeper or rapid spinner, or both. He gets Mach punch, which is useful, especiall with STAB and Technician.
Hypno. He's got some decent special defense, and a pretty good movepool. Based on stats alone, you'd throw him in the Special Wall category. But look at that movepool. Nasty Plot can boost his mediocre Special Attack, and once you've done that, you've got one hell of a tank. Hypno also has access to Belly Drum, and an ok Physical Movepool. Hypno has options. Specs, Nasty Plot, or Belly Drum. How you use him is up to you. However, you can't use Baton Pass in conjunction with any Egg Moves, as it comes from Pokemon XD.
Leafeon is seriously deadly. While the fragility doesn't look appealing, it has Swords Dance and Leaf Blade, along with 110 base attack. After a Swords Dance or two, you have a mighty sweeper.
Hitmonchan. The last Hitmon, it's the one you'll see the least. Don't underestimate him though. Close Combat and the elemental punches are deadly, especially with Iron Fist.
Blastoise gets nice tanking ability, along with Yawn, Toxic, and a nice STAB, as well as Rapid Spin. He's decent, and highly viable; just watch out for Leafeon.
Clefable. Oh Lord, Clefable. Clefable is probably the biggest pain in the ass you'll encounter. Toxic Orb + Facade + Calm Mind will absolutely destroy your walls. Not even Steelix can stand up to this mighty creature. Your best bet is to take it out with a Physical Sweeper, or wall it with a Ghost like Rotom or Frosslass.
Speaking of whom, let's take a look at Rotom. This crappy little Motor sees use, and is an awesome anti-lead. He can switch in on a Steelix, who always uses Earthquake, Will-o-wisp him, and essentially destroy him. He's also an awesome anti-lead, and can switch in on Purugly's fake out, and slow the fat cat down with Thunderwave.
Frosslass is also useful. She can be an annoyance, or can sweep from either side. Confuse Ray is useful, and you can even abuse Attract, seeing as most Shoddy users do not bother to change their Pokemon's gender.
Dunsparce is UU's own little Serene Grace abuser. He gets a variety of Flinching move, Bite, Rock Slide, Headbutt, etc., and can even parahax with Body Slam. He's useful as a lead, and a Choice Band set isn't unthinkable.
Furret. While he doesn't have awesome stats, he has a nice movepool. He can kill leads like Persian or Purugly by using Trick to lock them into Hypnosis, then SubPunching them to death.
Lapras is abosolutely deadly. Curse gives it sweeping and tanking options, and can easily destroy a good portion of a team.
Linoone. Oh lord, Linoone. We've all seen the Belly Drum + Salac sweep. Linoone is why you should absolutely be running a Frosslass or Rotom on your team, lest you be swept by boosted Returns or Extremespeeds.
Gastrodon. With Water/Ground typing, it's a UU Swampert, with a less offensive movepool. It walls beautifully, and can also run Curse, or even a Swapert-esque set with Recover. It even has Counter and Mirror coat, which can be extremely problematic if the oppponent doesn't expect it.
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Ok. There's your UU metagame guide. Not perfect, and still needs a little tweaking, but it's pretty much done. Please tell me if I left anything out, I'm sure I forgot something. >_>
Probably some spelling errors here and there, just point them out to me, and I'll fix them.
I also do this by Smogon's tiers. While I'd love to do this for WP or one of Libelldra's tiers, Smogon's tier list is the most widely used and I'm familiar with the UU metagame according to it. >_>
Table of Contents:
A. Introduction.
B. Leads.
C. Physical Walls.
D. Physical Sweepers.
E. Special Walls
F. Special Sweepers
G. Miscellaneous Pokemon
A. Introduction.
This guide isn't for those of you who dislike reading a good wall o' text. Sorry.
This guide will cover the basics of the UU tier. It's most powerful and popular pokemon, and their various roles.
I'm not setting out to cover every single Pokemon in UU, that'd take way too long and would be completely unnecessary. No, instead you get to see UU's best and brightest, and how they work.
This isn't a team building guide either. If there's enough demand for one, I'll make it one, but for the time being, it's not.
The UU tier. where we throw pokemon that can work, but the common, average Joe can't use with much success. The OU metagame goes through trends, offensive, defensive, etc. The UU tier? Not so much. Many Pokemon in this tier can do a variety of things.
UU is a metagame where Speed is absolutely needed, and it's a rather unpredictable metagame. 150 Pokemon, and you don't know who's going to come at you next. It could be anything.
B. Leads.
First and foremost, we have the common leads of a team. In OU, we see Gengar and Weavile are usually high up on the list of leads. UU isn't measured, however out of pure experience we can see clearly who people lead with. Leads in both OU and UU like to be fast. Look at Gengar. Why do people like Gengar? Because he can easily cripple a lead. Gengar can hit you with Hypnosis so fast you don't know what's happening.
In UU, we see this situation as well, but with different pokemon. The two cats: Persian and Purugly. Both get Hypnosis, and both have 110+ Base Speed. Persian's got 3 points on Purugly, but both are effective.
Ninetails deserves mention as well.
C. Physical Walls.
UU sees several pokemon with 115+ base defense, and all but one are cursed with Rock Typing. Shuckle is at the top of the list, with the highest base Defense and Special Defense in the game. His other crappy stats don't make him favorable for walling, however he does have other uses, which I will go into later. Steelix is next on the list. 200 Base def, a usable movepool, and semi-usable stats to boot. Steelix sees use, and is probably one of the most common UU walls. Steelix has options with toxistall, and seeing as he resists Stealth Rock X4, so he can switch in on it and set up his own. Aggron and Cloyster come up next, with 180 Base Def. Aggron has better stats than Steelix, but horrible typing. He takes X4 damage from Fighting, and few UUers should be caught without one of the Hitmons on their team.
But then there's Cloyster. Tying with Aggron for 3rd best Def in the game, and with better typing, Cloyster is a favorable UU wall. With Rapid Spin, Explosion, Toxic spikes, Spikes, and a variety of other moves in his movepool, Cloyster is a lovely option. While his Ice typing isn't that nice, Cloyster sees use.
D. Physical Sweepers. The fun part of UU.
Owning the best attack stat in UU, Absol is a supreme choice. Absol is a beast in UU; abusing Crithax like he's getting paid more than Blissey does every night.
Super Luck + Night Slash + STAB + 130 Base Attack = GG. Absol is extremely predictable, but can easily take out one or two pokemon before you KO him. Absol has various set options, but rarely you'll see anything but Choice Banders and Swords Dancers.
Next on our list we see Kingler and Flareon. Flareon is really not that good of a pokemon, it lacks any form of a decent movepool. Kingler however, can be beastly. Also bosting 130 base attack, Kingler is easily one of the best Physical Sweepers in UU.
Armaldo, Crawdnaut, Granbull, Hitmonlee.
Now, let's knock some off the list. Armaldo has 125 base attack. Seems nice, right? Eh. Armaldo has decent stats, and if used with a Life Orb and Swords Dance, can work. He just gets outsped by a lot, and Earthquake is relatively common in UU. Crawdnaut has uses. He gets some nice STAB, but Crawdnaut wants to hit stuff hard and fast, something he doesn't to that great. Use him if you desire, but Kingler seems to do his job better.
Granbull is in a pickle. Beastly attack. Beastly movepool. In general, he's beastly. He runs CB as well as Absol does, and in general can destroy a decent portion of a team, if you're smart about it. He also crushes walls like Cloyster with Close Combat.
Finally, Hitmonlee. Hitmonlee enjoys the CC STAB that Granbull so desperately wants. But Ol' Lee is rather fragile, and can't easily switch in to anything but Thunder Wave. Close Combat can take a massive chunk of Steelix's health out with Close Combat, and is a force to be reckoned with.
Holy hell. I forgot how many Physical Sweepers there were.
D. Special Walls.
Again we pass over Shuckle, and will bring him up later.
Probopass is... not what Nosepass needed.
He can wall, but seems to enjoy his place as an... unexpected? Special sweeper. He does get Magnet Rise, but his 4x Fighting weakness is more problematic than his 4x Ground weakness.
Bastiodon is in the same boat as Aggron: Crappy typing, nice stats.
Claydol and Mr. Mime however, can wall. Claydol gets his funny typing and ability, and can Rapid Spin, Special Sweep, and can even pull of a RestTalk set. Mr. Mime can be a general pain in the ass. Passing CMs, Inducing Paralysis, sleep, and Confusion, or running Trick. Now I move on to my personal favorite. Grumpig. Grumpig will CM, sub, and proceed to wall you and Sweep you simultaneously. There's also Lanturn. Funny typing, and a funny ability. He can easily switch in to many things, and start abusing his stats. He gets the lethal BoltBeam combo, plus Surf. Not much stands up to him.
E. Special Sweepers
The last specified part of the guide.
We start off with Glaceon. Eevee's new evolution. It can sweep. Running Choice Specs, it's devastating. Fake Tears make it even scarier. It's highly situational though; SR and a lack of useful resistances are only so useful. Then there's Ampharos. Next highest Sp.Atk in UU. Fairly average HP, but it's usable. He doesn't have a huge variety of moves, and as a result is used moreso as a mixed sweeper than a Special one.
Next is a personal favorite, Cacturne. Cacturne isn't the type of Special Sweeper seen in OU; he's not fast. But he's awesome when running Specs. Cacturne gets unique STAB options, and a nice movepool.
Omastar and Gorebyss. Both have Swift Swim, and both can use it. Gorebyss likes Choice Specs if she's not in the rain. Omastar... Omastar has the same options as Gorry: Rain Dance or Specs. But he can also support. Do what you want with Omastar, I'm not a huge fan of it. Set up either in the rain, however, and your opponent will be weeping.
Well! There's the *general* setup of UU's best. Now we move onto those too difficult to pin down.
F.Miscellaneous UU Pokemon.
Shuckle. I told you this guy would show up, did I not?
Shuckle's a strange little... blob... thing. There's basically two things you can do.
A) Annoyance. Toxic + Rest + Encore + Filler is a giant pain in the ass. Encore on a useless move, Toxic, then just rest up and repeat.
Or B) Power Trick. Power Trick is interesting on Shuckle, as it can be extremely hilarious. Power Trick (as you may or may not know) swaps Defense and Attack. 230 Base Defense. 230 Attack. Holy crap. Laugh as your opponent gapes in suprise at their pokemon fainting.
Hitmontop is an unusual little creature. He can Rapid Spin, run a CB, or abuse Technician. He makes a fun physical sweeper, and is highly usable as a physical sweeper or rapid spinner, or both. He gets Mach punch, which is useful, especiall with STAB and Technician.
Hypno. He's got some decent special defense, and a pretty good movepool. Based on stats alone, you'd throw him in the Special Wall category. But look at that movepool. Nasty Plot can boost his mediocre Special Attack, and once you've done that, you've got one hell of a tank. Hypno also has access to Belly Drum, and an ok Physical Movepool. Hypno has options. Specs, Nasty Plot, or Belly Drum. How you use him is up to you. However, you can't use Baton Pass in conjunction with any Egg Moves, as it comes from Pokemon XD.
Leafeon is seriously deadly. While the fragility doesn't look appealing, it has Swords Dance and Leaf Blade, along with 110 base attack. After a Swords Dance or two, you have a mighty sweeper.
Hitmonchan. The last Hitmon, it's the one you'll see the least. Don't underestimate him though. Close Combat and the elemental punches are deadly, especially with Iron Fist.
Blastoise gets nice tanking ability, along with Yawn, Toxic, and a nice STAB, as well as Rapid Spin. He's decent, and highly viable; just watch out for Leafeon.
Clefable. Oh Lord, Clefable. Clefable is probably the biggest pain in the ass you'll encounter. Toxic Orb + Facade + Calm Mind will absolutely destroy your walls. Not even Steelix can stand up to this mighty creature. Your best bet is to take it out with a Physical Sweeper, or wall it with a Ghost like Rotom or Frosslass.
Speaking of whom, let's take a look at Rotom. This crappy little Motor sees use, and is an awesome anti-lead. He can switch in on a Steelix, who always uses Earthquake, Will-o-wisp him, and essentially destroy him. He's also an awesome anti-lead, and can switch in on Purugly's fake out, and slow the fat cat down with Thunderwave.
Frosslass is also useful. She can be an annoyance, or can sweep from either side. Confuse Ray is useful, and you can even abuse Attract, seeing as most Shoddy users do not bother to change their Pokemon's gender.
Dunsparce is UU's own little Serene Grace abuser. He gets a variety of Flinching move, Bite, Rock Slide, Headbutt, etc., and can even parahax with Body Slam. He's useful as a lead, and a Choice Band set isn't unthinkable.
Furret. While he doesn't have awesome stats, he has a nice movepool. He can kill leads like Persian or Purugly by using Trick to lock them into Hypnosis, then SubPunching them to death.
Lapras is abosolutely deadly. Curse gives it sweeping and tanking options, and can easily destroy a good portion of a team.
Linoone. Oh lord, Linoone. We've all seen the Belly Drum + Salac sweep. Linoone is why you should absolutely be running a Frosslass or Rotom on your team, lest you be swept by boosted Returns or Extremespeeds.
Gastrodon. With Water/Ground typing, it's a UU Swampert, with a less offensive movepool. It walls beautifully, and can also run Curse, or even a Swapert-esque set with Recover. It even has Counter and Mirror coat, which can be extremely problematic if the oppponent doesn't expect it.
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Ok. There's your UU metagame guide. Not perfect, and still needs a little tweaking, but it's pretty much done. Please tell me if I left anything out, I'm sure I forgot something. >_>
Probably some spelling errors here and there, just point them out to me, and I'll fix them.
I also do this by Smogon's tiers. While I'd love to do this for WP or one of Libelldra's tiers, Smogon's tier list is the most widely used and I'm familiar with the UU metagame according to it. >_>
Err...NFE...
I'm not going to define that as you should know what that means.
If Haunter is put in a tier higher than UU, then it cannot be used, but if Haunter isn't in a list higher and is not named then it can be used.
Chikorita can be used in UU if people wanted to...but would i be good? No, but you can still use it anyway.
I'm not going to define that as you should know what that means.
If Haunter is put in a tier higher than UU, then it cannot be used, but if Haunter isn't in a list higher and is not named then it can be used.
Chikorita can be used in UU if people wanted to...but would i be good? No, but you can still use it anyway.
Gabite wouldn't be a serious problem, but shelgon probably would.
There's nothing in UU that could deal with it: Look at it's movepool.
It'd crush anything that came at it. There aren't any strong Ice Types in UU, except for Walrein, who sees no usage at all, and would only really rise because of Shelgon, which is overcentralising, and Frosslass, who's really not that strong.
Then consider the pokemon that are NFE only because of a new Evolution in DP. Dusclops, Magneton, Rhydon, etc.
Whatever. UU tiers are up for discussion on Smogon in the near future. Other matters are more important, but it will be dealt with eventually.
There's nothing in UU that could deal with it: Look at it's movepool.
It'd crush anything that came at it. There aren't any strong Ice Types in UU, except for Walrein, who sees no usage at all, and would only really rise because of Shelgon, which is overcentralising, and Frosslass, who's really not that strong.
Then consider the pokemon that are NFE only because of a new Evolution in DP. Dusclops, Magneton, Rhydon, etc.
Whatever. UU tiers are up for discussion on Smogon in the near future. Other matters are more important, but it will be dealt with eventually.
Well Rhydon, Electabuzz, and the such would be left out if it were up to Smogon's tiers. Again, Libelldra's tiers included these Pokemon.
I see your point as those Pokemon can be used instead of their evolutions but yeah Smogon needs to fix their tiers.
Shelgon really isn't that much of a threat either. It's Speed is horrible. Even with one DD under its belt, it still gets outsped by Timid Froslass and gets OHKO'd by Ice Beam. It doesn't get Earthquake either so it's not much of a theat as Salamence is. More predictable, too, with it's horrible Special Attack, limiting it to only a Physical set which will most likely be Dragon Dance, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Zen Headbutt, Fire Fang, and Brick Break.
I see your point as those Pokemon can be used instead of their evolutions but yeah Smogon needs to fix their tiers.
Shelgon really isn't that much of a threat either. It's Speed is horrible. Even with one DD under its belt, it still gets outsped by Timid Froslass and gets OHKO'd by Ice Beam. It doesn't get Earthquake either so it's not much of a theat as Salamence is. More predictable, too, with it's horrible Special Attack, limiting it to only a Physical set which will most likely be Dragon Dance, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Zen Headbutt, Fire Fang, and Brick Break.
[QUOTE USER="ArecP" TIME="1215855434"]That's because Bagon, Shelgon, and Salamence do not learn Belly Drum <_<<br><br>where would you get that idea?<br><br>If Salamence got Belly Drum, it would be broken, very broken, especially if it got Outrage with it.[/QUOTE]<br><br>
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shelgon/moves
Shelgon gets Belly Drum.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/shelgon/moves
Shelgon gets Belly Drum.
Must be a mistake - Salamence definitely does NOT get Belly Drum. If it did, don't you think everyone would know about it? Just try breeding with Charmander, for fun. It WON'T work.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[QUOTE USER="Slowflake" TIME="1215904561"]Must be a mistake - Salamence definitely does NOT get Belly Drum. If it did, don't you think everyone would know about it? Just try breeding with Charmander, for fun. It WON'T work.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>
[QUOTE USER="Flounder_" TIME="1215908430"][QUOTE USER="Slowflake" TIME="1215904561"]Must be a mistake - Salamence definitely does NOT get Belly Drum. If it did, don't you think everyone would know about it? Just try breeding with Charmander, for fun. It WON'T work.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>[/QUOTE]
Owned, because I notified chaos in their Server two hours ago.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>[/QUOTE]
Owned, because I notified chaos in their Server two hours ago.
[QUOTE USER="Ominous Doom" TIME="1215916330"][QUOTE USER="Flounder_" TIME="1215908430"][QUOTE USER="Slowflake" TIME="1215904561"]Must be a mistake - Salamence definitely does NOT get Belly Drum. If it did, don't you think everyone would know about it? Just try breeding with Charmander, for fun. It WON'T work.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>[/QUOTE]
Owned, because I notified chaos in their Server two hours ago.[/QUOTE]
Ok?
You posted that 2 hours after I said that.
Once I said that, I posted it in Contributions and Corrections.
So yeah. >_>
I'm pretty sure I got it in before you did.
Besides, bringing that little error to attention doesn't really bring you closer to the Pre-Contributor badge, as far as I know. Minor changes don't get you jack. >_>
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/belly_drum
Do you see Salamence on there? I don't.
[/QUOTE]
That's really weird.
I'll notify them about that. >_>[/QUOTE]
Owned, because I notified chaos in their Server two hours ago.[/QUOTE]
Ok?
You posted that 2 hours after I said that.
Once I said that, I posted it in Contributions and Corrections.
So yeah. >_>
I'm pretty sure I got it in before you did.
Besides, bringing that little error to attention doesn't really bring you closer to the Pre-Contributor badge, as far as I know. Minor changes don't get you jack. >_>
Haunter should be UU just because it's movepool is so bad, most versians only use shadow ball and wouldn't shelgon and gabite just be the salemence and garchomp of UU, also, blastoise, castform, claydol, clefable, cloister, dunsparce, exploud, frosslass, gastrodon, glaceon, golduck, jynx, lanturn, lapras, mantine, octillery, omastar, wailord, aggron, granbull, hitmonchan, (belly drum) hypno, kangheskan, kecleon, lopunny (faster than most threats in UU with choice band and cute charm), nidoqueen, nidoking, miltank, politoad, poliwrath, primape, sudowoodo, and vigoroth, are all either great pokemon or can use powerful ice attacks in UU. A lot of them even get boltbeam and the special ones can take out shelgon and the faster or sturdier ones can take out gabite.
I guess it's a matter of preferance, but I've always hated wow on Haunter just because it can NEVER take any hits. And it's also walled by many normals with adequate sp def (like miltank and clefable) that are very common. It has Explosion to take care of them, but it's like gengar and blissy, if a gengar uses explosion on blissy, chances are it's first turn and blissy switched in on it. Making it a pokemon for a pokemon.
What about Noctowl as an UU special wall? Decent SpDef and HP, Roost, Reflect to make up for Base 50 defense, Hypnosis, and that one move that reverses status effects (don't recall the name). His only weakness is that he's Flying type. And aside from the mentioned gems, his movepool is truly lacking.
I also managed to pull off a decent Solrock set, but I can't for the life of me remember how it went.
I also managed to pull off a decent Solrock set, but I can't for the life of me remember how it went.
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