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zev!slacknet

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (MillionDaggers @ Oct 28 2007, 05:35 AM)
Above all, if you get drunk at a party DO NOT talk to her unless you are completely certain that you still have self control.

This has, in fact, happened to several friends of mine, it ain't pretty

Don't get drunk at all (or drink at all for that matter). Some girls don't like guys that drink. On the other hand, it's ok to say you had a shot when you didn't. She'll never know if she's drunk or not because buzzed people can still carry a reasonable conversation.

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Friendship isn't bad. As a matter of fact, that's a better way to go so you can build from there into a relationship. Most people who jump into relationships without prior friendship have a falling out soon afterward because they don't know each partner's limitations, preferences, etc.


He can't have a friendship anymore. She knows he likes her. The friendship to relationship route does work with a long time friend, not a short time friend. You have to have known her since elementary school and actually be friends with her (meaning you talk to her on a normal basis). Since you're still in school, you shouldn't worry too much about building that one relationship. Even if you don't get her, there's always other girls out there and you have that good feeling knowing that you tried.
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bobblyhead

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Oct 28 '07

Yeah, my friends have already talked to me about AIM. I already have one (good thing too). Phone number, however, is the most orthodox method, and yes, I will most likely be using it.

Hmm, keep in mind the words. Got it.

EDIT: Small problem, that being I can't ask for a number. We have a school directory. TT
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Esotu

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 27 2007, 11:38 PM)
QUOTE (MillionDaggers @ Oct 28 2007, 05:35 AM)
Above all, if you get drunk at a party DO NOT talk to her unless you are completely certain that you still have self control.

This has, in fact, happened to several friends of mine, it ain't pretty

Don't get drunk at all (or drink at all for that matter). Some girls don't like guys that drink. On the other hand, it's ok to say you had a shot when you didn't. She'll never know if she's drunk or not because buzzed people can still carry a reasonable conversation.

Why lie? O__o;

That's even a bigger turn off.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 28 2007, 05:38 AM)
QUOTE (MillionDaggers @ Oct 28 2007, 05:35 AM)
Above all, if you get drunk at a party DO NOT talk to her unless you are completely certain that you still have self control.

This has, in fact, happened to several friends of mine, it ain't pretty

Don't get drunk at all (or drink at all for that matter). Some girls don't like guys that drink. On the other hand, it's ok to say you had a shot when you didn't. She'll never know if she's drunk or not because buzzed people can still carry a reasonable conversation.

well it's a social lubricant. just know how much you can handle

enjoy responsibly!
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zev!slacknet

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:40 AM)
Why lie?  O__o;

That's even a bigger turn off.

She'll never know. Honestly, how is a girl at a party going to tell if someone has had one drink or not? It's not like she has a breathalyzer in her purse. However, that is important; don't lie and if you do, never get caught lying.

EDIT: What do you mean you can't ask for her number? Even if you can find out her number in any way, you should still ask for her number. It makes her know that you know her number which makes you look like an interested guy and not a stalker.
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bobblyhead

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Oct 28 '07

I drink in moderation, never will in considerable amounts. :\

Of course, I can easily stop. Beer has been a personal favorite of mine, though I usually take it is small amounts. The only time I've gotten drunk was when I was 9 years old, and I was home alone. Go figure.

EDIT: Besides, I'm not all that worried about chub. I mean, it is hardly visible, unless I try to look fat, and I hardly care (though I still want to get rid of it).
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Esotu

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 27 2007, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:40 AM)
Why lie?  O__o;

That's even a bigger turn off.

She'll never know. Honestly, how is a girl at a party going to tell if someone has had one drink or not? It's not like she has a breathalyzer in her purse. However, that is important; don't lie and if you do, never get caught lying.

But why would you lie about drinking in the first place? Drinking doesn't make you any more or less of a man. You shouldn't be drinking in the first place if under the legal age anyway.

In short, don't lie. It's just not acceptable, especially because it'll become harder to keep your story straight later down the road if you make it a habit.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 28 2007, 05:43 AM)
QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:40 AM)
Why lie?  O__o;

That's even a bigger turn off.

She'll never know. Honestly, how is a girl at a party going to tell if someone has had one drink or not? It's not like she has a breathalyzer in her purse. However, that is important; don't lie and if you do, never get caught lying.

while it's true she probably won't know, there's really no point lying. Unless she's strictly relgious or something. I mean, tell her ' hey, i just had a couple of drinks'. Why should she be mad? You're not her responsibility, you're at a party. If she stopped talking to you just because you wanted to have fun, well...
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zev!slacknet

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (bobblyhead @ Oct 28 2007, 05:45 AM)
I drink in moderation, never will in considerable amounts. :\

Of course, I can easily stop. Beer has been a personal favorite of mine, though I usually take it is small amounts. The only time I've gotten drunk was when I was 9 years old, and I was home alone. Go figure.

Don't drink around her unless you know she drinks too. If she does, it is an ok time to find out if she's interested in your or not depending on how buzzed she is. People's judgement is impaired while drunk and they let their guard down...I would know. Anyway, if you find out she likes you then, that's good and that's as far as you should take it until she becomes sober again.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 28 2007, 05:47 AM)
QUOTE (bobblyhead @ Oct 28 2007, 05:45 AM)
I drink in moderation, never will in considerable amounts. :\

Of course, I can easily stop. Beer has been a personal favorite of mine, though I usually take it is small amounts. The only time I've gotten drunk was when I was 9 years old, and I was home alone. Go figure.

Don't drink around her unless you know she drinks too. If she does, it is an ok time to find out if she's interested in your or not depending on how buzzed she is. People's judgement is impaired while drunk and they let their guard down...I would know. Anyway, if you find out she likes you then, that's good and that's as far as you should take it until she becomes sober again.

i agree completely
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bobblyhead

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Oct 28 '07

Quite obviously, besides, I'd never actually try to drink around her. I've never found it cool to drink at parties. If I do, however, I'd best be prepared for it.

*still taking notes*
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Esotu

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 27 2007, 11:47 PM)
QUOTE (bobblyhead @ Oct 28 2007, 05:45 AM)
I drink in moderation, never will in considerable amounts. :\

Of course, I can easily stop. Beer has been a personal favorite of mine, though I usually take it is small amounts. The only time I've gotten drunk was when I was 9 years old, and I was home alone. Go figure.

Don't drink around her unless you know she drinks too. If she does, it is an ok time to find out if she's interested in your or not depending on how buzzed she is. People's judgement is impaired while drunk and they let their guard down...I would know. Anyway, if you find out she likes you then, that's good and that's as far as you should take it until she becomes sober again.

Again, I don't agree on extracting information that you may have not had access to in the beginning if she was sober.

It's taking advantages of her, which you should never do as it's unethical.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (bobblyhead @ Oct 28 2007, 05:49 AM)
Quite obviously, besides, I'd never actually try to drink around her. I've never found it cool to drink at parties. If I do, however, I'd best be prepared for it.

*still taking notes*

well youre not trying to be cool, are you? like i said, alcohol provides a social lubricant. everyone becomes more comfortable around each other, but other than that its completely and utterly your perogative
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zev!slacknet

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:50 AM)
Again, I don't agree on extracting information that you may have not had access to in the beginning if she was sober.

It's taking advantages of her, which you should never do as it's unethical.

Well...hypothetically speaking, it was her fault for getting drunk in the first place. Besides, I'm not telling him to go upstairs or something if that's the case. dry.gif

EDIT: I'm starting to see a divergence in advice between us. It is just something that happens with experience. bobblyhead, be careful of which advice you choose to use.
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Esotu

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Zev @ Oct 27 2007, 11:54 PM)
QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:50 AM)
Again, I don't agree on extracting information that you may have not had access to in the beginning if she was sober.

It's taking advantages of her, which you should never do as it's unethical.

Well...hypothetically speaking, it was her fault for getting drunk in the first place. Besides, I'm not telling him to go upstairs or something if that's the case. dry.gif

Taking things into context...

Would it be her fault too if she was raped while drunk?

I doubt Bobbly wouldn't do such a thing, but it's the same principle. You would be taking advantage of intellectual property, which can still have an attached value like one would have over his/her self.

Drinking doesn't necessarily make you socially attractive or more apt to being open; it makes you less aware of what you're doing, and, at young ages, can reduce your brain's maximum efficiency greatly. Whether you drink or not, and hopefully legally, is up to you, but understand that a drink or two won't make you a stud.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

i think the best summary would be use your MSN and AIM, get to know her, let her get to know you. Hang around before and after school, go to parties and social gatherings.
Leave her alone for a while and let her come to you, while this is unnecessary it'll give you that little spirit boost because you know she genuinley enjoys your company. Watch some movies and make sure she doesnt bring friends. The old school stuff.

EDIT: And of course, don't try to go for anything while you are both intoxicated. It doesnt seem fair to anyone, and if you hook up in that state and remember in the morning AND, worse still, she regrets it, then there goes everything. Even making conversation with her will be awkward
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bobblyhead

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Oct 28 '07

got it. Guys, we have that board transition, so I am being forced to save all previous info. Luckily, I know most of it currently. Let use hope nothing is lost. I need this info, lol.

So, hold on, if possible, can you save whatever important info you are going to say till after the transition?

Feel free to help me still though, I just don't want to lose any of this excellent help in the transition!

Also, yeah, I won't try getting drunk. Its not like I want to, lol.
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MillionDaggers

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Oct 28 '07

is the transition happening now?
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zev!slacknet

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Oct 28 '07

QUOTE (Esotu @ Oct 28 2007, 05:59 AM)
Would it be her fault too if she was raped while drunk?

I doubt Bobbly wouldn't do such a thing, but it's the same principle.  You would be taking advantage of intellectual property, which can still have an attached value like one would have over his/her self.

Drinking doesn't necessarily make you socially attractive or more apt to being open; it makes you less aware of what you're doing, and, at young ages, can reduce your brain's maximum efficiency greatly.  Whether you drink or not, and hopefully legally, is up to you, but understand that a drink or two won't make you a stud.

I would think so to an extent...but that's just wrong. If bobblyhead likes the girl, then he would never think of going about it that way. Besides, one night stands are stupid compared to a relationship if he chose to go that way.

Anyway, a piece of advice we can all agree on; never take advantage of the situation to get some. In the real world, no one ever says, "oh hey, you know I really like you?" However, if the opportunity presents itself, bobblyhead should take it to find out how she feels about him because she already knows he likes her. It is unfair to him. At least, that's how I see it. Let's shift this topic back to advice and not just advice on when there's drinking involved.

EDIT: MillionDaggers touched on an important point. If you get a chance to hang out with her. Make sure she doesn't bring any friends. That's the best way to get to know her. Don't get her SN, get her number!
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bobblyhead

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Oct 28 '07

Yes, but my friends are always bugging me about something else. Remember Y? My best friend likes her, and I like X, so all my friends are saying to go on a double date should the situation present itself.

Ideas on that?
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